Comments for SysSU.com http://syssu.com Tech blog and Forum Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:45:19 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Sel http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-76 Sel Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:45:19 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-76 That is FBI, FBI falls under US. BTGUARD is in Canada. All they will know is I go to BTGUARD or that I go to a proxy site. so what! I'm starting to think you work for one of these companies trying to stop it all like the "Internet Sherif" Besides even if it went to canada the ISP is holding data for a customer that they can not disclose without 1 of 2 things. CUSTOMERS OK or COURT ORDER. That is FBI, FBI falls under US. BTGUARD is in Canada. All they will know is I go to BTGUARD or that I go to a proxy site. so what! I’m starting to think you work for one of these companies trying to stop it all like the “Internet Sherif” Besides even if it went to canada the ISP is holding data for a customer that they can not disclose without 1 of 2 things. CUSTOMERS OK or COURT ORDER.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Dan A http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-75 Dan A Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:22:49 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-75 Use VPN, that would essentially negate and it's way better than proxy. Use VPN, that would essentially negate and it’s way better than proxy.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Dan A http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-74 Dan A Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:14:11 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-74 And that's not actually holding the data. Torrents themselvs aren't even illegal. You can have 100x torrents on your computer, its when you start using them to obtain/share the data that it becomes illegal. And that’s not actually holding the data. Torrents themselvs aren’t even illegal. You can have 100x torrents on your computer, its when you start using them to obtain/share the data that it becomes illegal.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Dan A http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-73 Dan A Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:13:13 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-73 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9926803-38.html and popular among isp's..... http://www.proceranetworks.com/ Roll the die or stay legit, that's the reality. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9926803-38.html

and popular among isp’s…..

http://www.proceranetworks.com/

Roll the die or stay legit, that’s the reality.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Sel http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-72 Sel Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:40:23 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-72 Offshore is not the only way. Take a look at ThePirateBay.org. They are always getting threats from agencies and they always laugh about it. And look at ISOHunt they are STILL up just a light version for US users to prove a point to the court that it is JUST A SEARCH as im trying to prove to you. They are not downloading the content or providing the content for downloading. They are ONLY indexing much like (Actually just like) Google. And as a Google user would search for something we are doing the same regardless of the results we are not held reliable for downloading something just because we conducted a search and within the results was that illegal content. Offshore is not the only way. Take a look at ThePirateBay.org. They are always getting threats from agencies and they always laugh about it. And look at ISOHunt they are STILL up just a light version for US users to prove a point to the court that it is JUST A SEARCH as im trying to prove to you. They are not downloading the content or providing the content for downloading. They are ONLY indexing much like (Actually just like) Google. And as a Google user would search for something we are doing the same regardless of the results we are not held reliable for downloading something just because we conducted a search and within the results was that illegal content.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Sel http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-71 Sel Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:35:56 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-71 You fail to read the whole thing. Make sure you read/post the whole TOS before hand. Like I said in the beginning your data is safe in regards to it being handed over to a 3rd party. They can take it to court and unless the COURT ORDERS them to reveal customer information for people downloading illegal activities you are COMPLETELY SAFE. And if you read this post and my comment in regards to your first YOU ARE COMPLETELY SAFE TO USE SEARCH TERMS THAT WILL SHOW ILLEGAL CONTENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST IS TO SHOW YOU HOW TO GET AROUND ISOHUNTS "LITE" VERSION OR USE ALTERNATIVES. You show me one court document or letter or letter from agencies finding "Pirates" where they warned/took legal actions agaisnt someone for SEARCHING. By the way here is the REST of the TOS that you failed to copy. <blockquote>Failure to comply with the rules above will result in a refund & termination of your account. Your personal information will never be exposed to a third party without a court order.</blockquote> You fail to read the whole thing. Make sure you read/post the whole TOS before hand. Like I said in the beginning your data is safe in regards to it being handed over to a 3rd party. They can take it to court and unless the COURT ORDERS them to reveal customer information for people downloading illegal activities you are COMPLETELY SAFE. And if you read this post and my comment in regards to your first YOU ARE COMPLETELY SAFE TO USE SEARCH TERMS THAT WILL SHOW ILLEGAL CONTENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST IS TO SHOW YOU HOW TO GET AROUND ISOHUNTS “LITE” VERSION OR USE ALTERNATIVES. You show me one court document or letter or letter from agencies finding “Pirates” where they warned/took legal actions agaisnt someone for SEARCHING.

By the way here is the REST of the TOS that you failed to copy.

Failure to comply with the rules above will result in a refund & termination of your account. Your personal information will never be exposed to a third party without a court order.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Dan A http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-70 Dan A Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:27:17 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-70 The ONLY way to get a safe proxy is to use an off shore proxy... There are a few countries that have no copyright laws... I'm not going to name where, and I'm not going to name the servers/sites that employ such... All I'm going to say is I used to work for a website that was hosted off shore (that's what we called it). The reason we did it was so we didn't have to pay for VBB =) and we got away with it, but since they don't go by conventional laws our server was under constant DDOS attacks. =( Made us angry, but what can you do? The ONLY way to get a safe proxy is to use an off shore proxy… There are a few countries that have no copyright laws… I’m not going to name where, and I’m not going to name the servers/sites that employ such… All I’m going to say is I used to work for a website that was hosted off shore (that’s what we called it). The reason we did it was so we didn’t have to pay for VBB =) and we got away with it, but since they don’t go by conventional laws our server was under constant DDOS attacks. =( Made us angry, but what can you do?

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Dan A http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-69 Dan A Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:22:16 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-69 You still assume it's for legal activities. This is an exert straight off BT website: " BTGuard.com - TERMS OF SERVICE Use of BTGuard.com proxy service is provided by Netcrawled LLC, subject to the notices, terms, and conditions set forth below and on the BTGuard.com web sites. We may regularly amend these notices, terms and conditions at any time without prior notice by posting new or revised terms of use policies and other documents on the BTGuard.com web sites. PLEASE READ THESE TERMS CAREFULLY BEFORE USING OUR SERVICES. USE OF BTGuard.com PROXY SERVICE CONSTITUTES YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF ALL SUCH NOTICES, TERMS AND CONDITIONS. You will not use this service for hacking, DOS attacks, or SPAM related activities. You will not share your account with others, if we see multiple IPs connecting to your account it will be terminated, and in this instance no refund will be given. You will not conduct illegal activites. You understand and agree that you are soley responsible for all your activities using our service. You understand and agree that you are soley responsible for special, consequential, or exemplary damages, including but not limited to damages for loss of profits, goodwill, use, data or other intangible losses. " "You will not conduct illegal activites." "You will not conduct illegal activites." "You will not conduct illegal activites." "You will not conduct illegal activites." Oh did I forget about "You will not conduct illegal activites."? As I'll state for everyone, BT and proxy is pointless! If your using it for legal purposes you have no need for a proxy, and if you aren't I'm pretty sure that the line above would qualify you breaking the terms and conditions of BTguard and would then break the contract you and the "company" have making it completely legal for them to disclose your info. (the idea of the proxy needing to avoid it's own charges they will give you up, it's inevitable) And even if you get a proxy, that still won't keep your ISP from snooping if they wanted. As all in all YOUR IP has to connect to the proxy.... Which means data is still traveling on your ISP's network at some point. It's like roads, even if in the country you get your illegal activities in it's legal you still can't bring them back home. I've researched this off and on for a while, people don't seem to understand how retarded it is to use a proxy and think all is safe. You still assume it’s for legal activities. This is an exert straight off BT website:

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BTGuard.com – TERMS OF SERVICE

Use of BTGuard.com proxy service is provided by Netcrawled LLC, subject to the notices, terms, and conditions set forth below and on the BTGuard.com web sites. We may regularly amend these notices, terms and conditions at any time without prior notice by posting new or revised terms of use policies and other documents on the BTGuard.com web sites. PLEASE READ THESE TERMS CAREFULLY BEFORE USING OUR SERVICES. USE OF BTGuard.com PROXY SERVICE CONSTITUTES YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF ALL SUCH NOTICES, TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

You will not use this service for hacking, DOS attacks, or SPAM related activities.
You will not share your account with others, if we see multiple IPs connecting to your account it will be terminated, and in this instance no refund will be given.
You will not conduct illegal activites.
You understand and agree that you are soley responsible for all your activities using our service.
You understand and agree that you are soley responsible for special, consequential, or exemplary damages, including but not limited to damages for loss of profits, goodwill, use, data or other intangible losses. ”

“You will not conduct illegal activites.”

“You will not conduct illegal activites.”

“You will not conduct illegal activites.”

“You will not conduct illegal activites.”

Oh did I forget about “You will not conduct illegal activites.”?

As I’ll state for everyone, BT and proxy is pointless! If your using it for legal purposes you have no need for a proxy, and if you aren’t I’m pretty sure that the line above would qualify you breaking the terms and conditions of BTguard and would then break the contract you and the “company” have making it completely legal for them to disclose your info. (the idea of the proxy needing to avoid it’s own charges they will give you up, it’s inevitable)

And even if you get a proxy, that still won’t keep your ISP from snooping if they wanted. As all in all YOUR IP has to connect to the proxy…. Which means data is still traveling on your ISP’s network at some point. It’s like roads, even if in the country you get your illegal activities in it’s legal you still can’t bring them back home.

I’ve researched this off and on for a while, people don’t seem to understand how retarded it is to use a proxy and think all is safe.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Sel http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-68 Sel Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:34:35 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-68 When it comes to doing the actual search for that illegal content you are perfectly safe to do that and I don't care who is watching. It is not against the law to make a search for something on the internet. The proxy for searching is just a way to get around ISOHunt's "Lite" version. Also depending on the country (Like Canada) they can not give away your personal information (Includes name, address, number, IP, ETC.) without your full consent. A Good example of why they can't press charges against someone for doing a search is lets say I search for "The Wolf Man 2010" on google and I get a torrent link to an illegal video of that movie when really all I wanted is to look up the main actors of the movie. Does this mean someone gets to press charges against me? Or lets say I go to ISOHUNT.COM to look for some really cool backgrounds or wallpapers for Avatar and I do an Avatar search and get a bunch of illegal movies of Avatar. Does this mean I downloaded those? Or does this mean they get to charge me for downloading those? THE ANSWER IS NO As for downloading right now a lot of people are using BTGuard.com (For downloading), and what is really neat about it and the main purpose about it is the fact that it is located in Canada. Canada has the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act or PIPEDA Act where they can not disclose your information to any other company without your full consent (Permission) and HOW they are allowed to disclose your information to that company. So basically when someone tries to go after someone using BTGuard they will be directed to BTGuard and BTGuard will be unable to disclose any information about who is downloading what unless given permission by the downloader. And if you think about it I'm sure they are NOT the data center and so in reality the person is going to hit the data center the data center is not going to be able to release BTGuard's information and BTguard is not going to be able to release its customers information so the most that can happen is BTGuard's servers get shut down by the data center to keep the data center from receiving any kind of legal actions towards them (Happens all the time). Also on top of that a lot of these proxies do not record your information about who downloaded what and when so tracking something down AFTER THE FACT will be very difficult. also there is millions of proxy hits every day so are going to have to flush that log sometime if they even have one. There is ALWAYS going to be a way to get public data that you want, you just have to be on top of the latest ways to intercept and receive that data. When it comes to doing the actual search for that illegal content you are perfectly safe to do that and I don’t care who is watching. It is not against the law to make a search for something on the internet. The proxy for searching is just a way to get around ISOHunt’s “Lite” version. Also depending on the country (Like Canada) they can not give away your personal information (Includes name, address, number, IP, ETC.) without your full consent.

A Good example of why they can’t press charges against someone for doing a search is lets say I search for “The Wolf Man 2010″ on google and I get a torrent link to an illegal video of that movie when really all I wanted is to look up the main actors of the movie. Does this mean someone gets to press charges against me?

Or lets say I go to ISOHUNT.COM to look for some really cool backgrounds or wallpapers for Avatar and I do an Avatar search and get a bunch of illegal movies of Avatar. Does this mean I downloaded those? Or does this mean they get to charge me for downloading those?

THE ANSWER IS NO

As for downloading right now a lot of people are using BTGuard.com (For downloading), and what is really neat about it and the main purpose about it is the fact that it is located in Canada. Canada has the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act or PIPEDA Act where they can not disclose your information to any other company without your full consent (Permission) and HOW they are allowed to disclose your information to that company. So basically when someone tries to go after someone using BTGuard they will be directed to BTGuard and BTGuard will be unable to disclose any information about who is downloading what unless given permission by the downloader.

And if you think about it I’m sure they are NOT the data center and so in reality the person is going to hit the data center the data center is not going to be able to release BTGuard’s information and BTguard is not going to be able to release its customers information so the most that can happen is BTGuard’s servers get shut down by the data center to keep the data center from receiving any kind of legal actions towards them (Happens all the time).

Also on top of that a lot of these proxies do not record your information about who downloaded what and when so tracking something down AFTER THE FACT will be very difficult. also there is millions of proxy hits every day so are going to have to flush that log sometime if they even have one.

There is ALWAYS going to be a way to get public data that you want, you just have to be on top of the latest ways to intercept and receive that data.

]]> Comment on The ISOHunt Alternative by Daniel Altenhoefen http://syssu.com/2010/04/the-isohunt-alternative/comment-page-1#comment-67 Daniel Altenhoefen Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:01:08 +0000 http://syssu.com/?p=240#comment-67 Ok first problem, what happens when a proxy server gets pushed to give up IP's or be liable for distributing copyright material? Do you honestly think a Canadian Proxy is going to say "oh you can't charge me!"? Hell they will give up your ip AND where you live just so they can live another day. Understand, when you are using a torrent for illegal acts you can't hide, you are being recorded everywhere.... Most proxy servers keep logs, which I'm just going to assume would link your IP to theirs. Now how would they know who's IP is getting the data? You can trace all traffic and it's port exchanges back to the source, which is you. Now what? You are retarded for telling thousands of people to use a proxy. Lame ass retard. Ok first problem, what happens when a proxy server gets pushed to give up IP’s or be liable for distributing copyright material? Do you honestly think a Canadian Proxy is going to say “oh you can’t charge me!”? Hell they will give up your ip AND where you live just so they can live another day. Understand, when you are using a torrent for illegal acts you can’t hide, you are being recorded everywhere…. Most proxy servers keep logs, which I’m just going to assume would link your IP to theirs. Now how would they know who’s IP is getting the data? You can trace all traffic and it’s port exchanges back to the source, which is you. Now what? You are retarded for telling thousands of people to use a proxy. Lame ass retard.

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